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(2015-10-10, 00:36)Cutty Wrote: BLUE has been through about 4 major (if you will) revisions and polishing since January. This system will be slick.
In my opinion such demands for release dates, etc might push the developers to that end, and the 'intermediates' might be somewhat disappointing to some of us 'purists'... just a thought.
Cheers!
Mike
We're not demanding a fixed release dates, but rather requesting a moving rough ETA as BLUE is being developed.
I totally understand that rigid release date does put stress on developers and also makes the final product not a good as it could possible be.
But when told Spring or Summer, with not much info to follow and now into Fall, the development appears dead.
Now knowing there have been 4 or so major revision since January, that is amazing news.
If this news was posted before and I missed that, I apologize.
But that is the kind of information others and myself want to be hearing.
Even without an ETA, an update here or there, a brief tidbit of information with developer's thoughts on progress and changes in revisions as they happen would be wonderful.
Just a little info goes a very long way.
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2015-10-10, 02:32
(2015-10-10, 01:59)kevinmcc Wrote: (2015-10-10, 00:36)Cutty Wrote: BLUE has been through about 4 major (if you will) revisions and polishing since January. This system will be slick.
In my opinion such demands for release dates, etc might push the developers to that end, and the 'intermediates' might be somewhat disappointing to some of us 'purists'... just a thought.
Cheers!
Mike
Now knowing there have been 4 or so major revision since January, that is amazing news. 
..........this would be dealing with basics, 'potential' add ins, etc... not counting controller... the development has been involved. Especially since a lot of time and energy has also been spent on server upgrades, quality of current data, etc.. outside of the Blue development.
If this news was posted before and I missed that, I apologize.
and the above 'approximation' would not have been on the 'public' forum, or even in a post specifically, far as I know.
You didn't miss anything as 'approximately specific' as that... No apology necessary.
But that is the kind of information others and myself want to be hearing.
Even without an ETA, an update here or there, a brief tidbit of information with developer's thoughts on progress and changes in revisions as they happen would be wonderful.
I definitely agree with you!
Just a little info goes a very long way.
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Fully agree with Mike !
Thomas
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+1 Mike !
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just a little more on this. Things evolve though some are hardly visible to most
My station is in the south of France and east of me there is a 'huge' military transmitter (submarine comm, 410m antenna and god knows what power but I guess a few megawatt) that was literally blocking any detection in that direction. I couldn't 'see' any strike in Italy ....
One day that problem disappeared with no reason (and I can't imagine the french military closing down that kind of emitter, they only have 3 in France capable of worldwide comm with subs)
What most probably happened is that the devs analysed over some months the problem I had with all other stations around me and finally coded some algorithm to eliminate this, as the signal was on a constant frequency it wasn't to hard to imagine a software filter
I never ever saw any public statement of this 'improvement' but since .. I detect strikes way past Turkey .....
This kind of collaborative efforts are involving many thing, some visible, some less and some hardly ... but it's the complete set that makes it work. It's not so hard to imagine a new station but it has to be compatible with the existing detections, the servers behind have to be able to cope with the different systems and still produce a reliable result and over time improve ... else it can stay as is ... it works pretty nicely. But no, they decided to improve ... and possible by backwards compatibility with our actual systems. Though slowly older systems will become obsolete as the new results will most probably way better ....
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I am starting to smell a rat.........
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2015-11-05, 20:35
With the delay of System Blue, is there any chance of opening up the data to people who pledge to add to the network when it becomes available?
I'm interested in the electronics side, but I really want to get my hands on that lovely, lovely data.
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(2015-11-05, 20:35)DavidEA Wrote: With the delay of System Blue, is there any chance of opening up the data to people who pledge to add to the network when it becomes available?
I'm interested in the electronics side, but I really want to get my hands on that lovely, lovely data. Hi,
Access to the data is granted after you have a completed station that is sending data to the network. To my knowledge, there aren't any exceptions to this. The data is not to be used for commercial purposes and/or monetary gain.
John
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(2015-11-06, 15:22)John.Sacrey Wrote: (2015-11-05, 20:35)DavidEA Wrote: With the delay of System Blue, is there any chance of opening up the data to people who pledge to add to the network when it becomes available?
I'm interested in the electronics side, but I really want to get my hands on that lovely, lovely data. Hi,
Access to the data is granted after you have a completed station that is sending data to the network. To my knowledge, there aren't any exceptions to this. The data is not to be used for commercial purposes and/or monetary gain.
John
Hi John
It's not for monetary gain, I'm an armchair stormchaser/GIS/data junkie.
I can understand the restriction of only allowing participants to access the data as it promotes more people to set up stations. Given the delay of system blue and the unavailability of red, I was hoping they would review that policy as an interim measure. They could even give a grace period of a couple of months after blue's release and then remove access to anyone not participating in the network.
Cheers
David
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(2015-10-10, 00:36)Cutty Wrote: As far as replacement parts....
You might have trouble getting the original GPS module, from what I understand, and have to do with a different version.... perhaps with a feature missing.
The PDF document contains lists of virtually all of the parts required... however some are quite specific... for example the specially chosen LED on the E field preamplifier.
Yes,... the boards themselves were last produced a year ago.
Before I get started with the "real" part of my post, let me apologize in advance if I come off sounding like a jerk. Especially in a first post  I have nothing but respect for the developers of the project, and am truly amazed that they have put together a system of this magnitude as a purely volunteer effort without corporate or institutional funding. I also don't blame them for not open sourcing their software and algorithms. That's the product of their blood, sweat, and tears. And if anyone is ever going to get filthy rich off of that work, it should be them and not some corporate entity that found it on the internet and ran with it with no real work involved.
While sitting here tonight waiting for a large upload to happen, I went through the Red system PDF and checked the parts lists one component at t time. I can source every part needed, including the specified GPS module and LEDs, except for one part...the PC boards. (Note: I'm in the US. Outside of North America it may be harder to source everything, I honestly don't know.)
I agree totally that the developers should be focused on the development of Blue, and going back and recreating kits for Red is a massive step backwards and a major waste of their probably very limited time and money. But Gerber files for the Red boards sure would be nice.
David
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