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I am looking for ideas on the feasibility of possibly of powering the system blue.
POE powered:
Use a POE to USB adapter (Something like
PoE Splitter with MicroUSB Plug)
Solar with super caps
Use more super caps, but concept is there (Something like
5v Solar Power Supply)
Can anyone lend some incite into how they have been powering their devices outside of the basic USB plug?
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2023-01-08, 19:46
(This post was last modified: 2023-01-08, 19:48 by cutty.)
(2023-01-07, 20:49)lostinignorance Wrote: I am looking for ideas on the feasibility of possibly of powering the system blue.
POE powered:
Use a POE to USB adapter (Something like PoE Splitter with MicroUSB Plug)
Solar with super caps
Use more super caps, but concept is there (Something like 5v Solar Power Supply)
Can anyone lend some incite into how they have been powering their devices outside of the basic USB plug?
Power it as it is designed to be powered: a good quality USB 5V supply. Don't waste your time trying to innovate with power supplies unless there is some extreme reason to do so. You're working in the 'noise' band trying to select some specific noises. Don't add opportunities for more noise... especially when installing and optimizing, and learning what you've joined.
Folks have done both... success varies per individual, location, need, etc.
Solar Supplies are notorious for noise. The controller needs to be where you can access it so why POE? Poor, noisy power supplies and many so called 'chargers' are a big percentage of 'issues' with systems. If the currently installed jack has power to the controller 5V line, you can POE, but why???? You sure don't want a glitch sending 48V hard and heavy spike into the controller! Do NOT underestimate the importance of the designed power supply, but you really don't need to 'overkill' either.
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(2023-01-07, 20:49)lostinignorance Wrote: Can anyone lend some incite into how they have been powering their devices outside of the basic USB plug?
The most important thing is to use a good-quality 5V
linear power supply, not a typical switchmode power supply that'll inject all sorts of noise into the system. You can find these sold to audio enthusiasts who want to run USB-powered computer gear off low-noise power. if you avoid the crystals and magic green pens and monster oxygen-free antimatter heatsinks and other stuff you can find a fairly decent non-switchmode USB power supply there.
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Whilst I agree that decent linear PSU is the way to go to squeeze every last bit of signal out of the noise PoE can be tamed and be very useful if the controler is not within a few feet of mains power, say out in a barn. Sending 0.5 A at 5 V for any distance needs fairly hefty cable to avoid an unacceptable voltage drop.
Switchedmode PSU's do tend to be very noisy but they aren't all created equal. Go trough all those you have and you might find a quiet one. On PoE check out this thread: Blitzortung.org Forum › Public Forums › Hardware, Software, Lightning Physics > PoE recommendations for System Blue (Sep/Oct 2016). That setup has been powering my controller 24/7 for the last seven years with no issues. The mentioned TL-POE10R PoE splitter is still available, at least in the UK, for around GBP 10.00.
The risk of damage to the controler from having 48 V shoved where it shouldn't be is minimal. A proper PoE IEEE 802.3af power source won't provided the full 48 V until it thinks it is connected to a valid powered device. Once up it checks that too much power isn't being drawn and disconnects if there is. Passive PoE, however, is risky, see the mentioned thread above. The biggest risk with the TL-POE10R is the little switch that selects the output voltage to 12, 9 or 5 V being "accidentally" set incorrectly.
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Another thing you can do if you really need to power the Blue from a switchmode PSU is to put a DC filter between it and the Blue. There are two main variants of this on Aliexpress that everyone copies, I ordered both (they're only a few dollars) at the start of the year but the second variant is lost in Sunyou's postage system so I can't provide performance measurements for it yet.