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Cartography and funding (empty zones) |
Posted by: Kellogs - 2017-05-14, 11:50 - Forum: Hardware, Software, Lightning Physics
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Dear Friends,
In my spare time I am contacting user groups, communities and interested people to point out the importance of Blitzortung lightning detection projet. I am interested in filling "empty zones". This is quite interesting as empty zones cannot be filled "immediately" and several stations are needed (as well as hardware in some case). It means that we shall encourage people to work together.
Here are my questions:
1) Coverage map
The list of stations is available here.
http://en.blitzortung.org/station_list.php
Is there a raster map available somewhere with zoom in-out to visualize approximate geographical coordinate of stations.
2) Grid
Are you planning to define an official grid where there should be at least 1 to n stations in the grid.
This will help user in their settings, detecting low-range or long-range lightnings (stop me if I am wrong).
It could help amateur meteo with statistics.
Also it could help me target zones where it would be nice to have new users.
If there is no grid approach, please let met propose a solution and set-up my own raster server.
3) Funding
If you need funding, I may be able to help. I know you are not looking for money and this is a hobby. But it might be interesting for certain zones (ex: Africa or South-America) to find a sponsor (company or organization) that would install an initial network of 10 to 50 stations, pay for hardware, just for a good start. If you are interested, please let me know and I can contact you privately. I don't need to collect the money, companies or organization will purchase directly from you.
I am French and I speak German also.
Kind regards,
Kellogs
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Iranian and Farsi speakers, please post here (in English) |
Posted by: Kellogs - 2017-05-14, 10:48 - Forum: General Discussion
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This is a dedicated forum post here for people from IRAN.
When they are enough users, we will open a direct link to website/forum in farsi.
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In reply to:
https://forum.blitzortung.org/showthread...1#pid14531
Thank you Nodi for contacting us.
This was my post on RIPE forum, thanks for catching it.
This is great to have you on the forum and discuss about lightning detection in your country.
I double-checked and restrictions from E.U. to Iran are over:
http://www.consilium.europa.eu/fr/press/...sanctions/
Please make sure there are no restrictions with customs while importing (on Iranian side) and try to look "in advance".
About Iran, keep in mind that there should be at least 4 stations in the country. After installing first station, we encourage you to help installation of other stations to go quickly. It is discouraging for people to see a station running during years without success. We encourage you to start a small web page and try to aggregate people around you and maybe research institutes. After 3 or more people register, we can link to your forum or webpage. Use Facebook or equivalent and try to create a small group of interested people
I am rather new on the forum, but I read that Egon had hardware in stock for empty zones.
Maybe he we pick-up your request ... I am not in his shoes.
Welcome on board anyway.
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Definition of a good noise-free site for BlitzOrtung probe |
Posted by: Kellogs - 2017-05-12, 22:38 - Forum: General Discussion
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From my understanding, the probe should be at least 10 meters away from any electrical equipment.
I am planning to put the probe on top of an old building.
My site is on the French country side, in a very rural area, but :
* I don't have a clear view on sky, because of a small hill. Does it matter?
* I can view a 4G mobile phone emitter, 5 kilometers away. Will it spoof the probe?
Kind regards,
Kellogs
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Collaboration around the world with GNNS ground based stations |
Posted by: Kellogs - 2017-05-12, 20:22 - Forum: General Discussion
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Dear Friends,
I am new here and first and I would like to congratulate you for the BlitzOrtung project. There was lightning in my area in France and I just discovered the project using Android BlitzOrtung project. It is great to see such a well-organized community project.
So my question is as follows: there are Billions of euros lost in lightning every year. Still, a large number of areas are not covered by BlitzOrtung around the world.
There are similarities with other projects. For example ground based GPS (GNNS) and differential GPS (RTK). Differential GPS are precise GPS stations providing positioning data. Some GNSS stations are located remotely in noise-free areas all around the world. And all of them have Internet access. Most of them are run by scientists, for example in observatories or meteorological labs.
Maybe ground GNSS stations would be interested to host a BlitzOrtung receiver. GNSS stations are usually organized in communities. So we know the precise positioning of each station.
Here is a partial map. In fact, there are way more of them:
![[Image: Veripos-network.jpg]](http://gpsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Veripos-network.jpg)
Here is a list of station networks that could become partners:
EUREF Permanent GNSS Network
Based in Belgium.
http://epncb.oma.be/_networkdata/stationlist.php
All network is extreme quality.
In 2015, Africa had 54 ground-based GNNS stations:
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/sites/default/f...A_2015.pdf
Brasil: IBGE Brasil
www.ibge.gov.br/home/geociencias/geodesia/estadual.shtm
Brasil map for GNNS with hundreds of receivers (I guess so, but I don't speak Brasilian):
ftp://geoftp.ibge.gov.br/informacoes_sob...aduais.pdf
French Guyana
Think about IGN or Arianespace.
Glonass stations (not official list)
http://gpsworld.com/tag/ground-station/
or from ESA:
http://www.navipedia.net/index.php/GLONA...nd_Segment
Do you think it would be valuable to list all possible GNNS stations worldwide and try to contact them? Some of them should have direct interest to install a BlitzOrtung detector, just for safety of equipment and protection against lightning.
Maybe this was discussed before, but what would be the perfect grid for precision reception?
Can you describe it? How many sites would you need in South America and Africa?
Kind regards,
Kellogs (Jean-Michel P., France)
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Noise hunting |
Posted by: tkerby - 2017-05-07, 21:32 - Forum: Hardware, Software, Lightning Physics
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I'm finding I'm getting exactly 100 triggers per second on the H field antenna and I think it's down to house wiring as turning it so that it's 45 degrees off parallel with the x and y axis of my house reduces the noise. The auto amplitude filter is effective and cancelling out +/-47 and +/- 141mV
Antenna is a coaxial möbius with a 50 turn transformer. Settings below. Any thoughts?
- ModeAutomatic, Noise Adaption, Amplitude Filter
- SignalsReceived: 396404, Good: 14969, Sent: 13692
- Signal RateLast second: 100, Last 60s: 99.6
- ErrorsNo GPS: 0, Overflow: 0
- StatusNormal
- Server , Region 1
10.6MByte, 3% Compr., 13692 Packets, 812Bytes each
Amplifiers
![[Image: new.png]](http://192.168.1.222:8080/img/new.png)
Amplifier 1 - H0![[Image: edit.png]](http://192.168.1.222:8080/img/edit.png) - Channel A
- Trigger-37mV/91mV, reached 20 times in last 15m, 54s
- Gains10 * 10 * 40 = Total Gain 4000 | Relative Gain 6349 (99%)
- Noise47mVpp
- Lowpass Filter30.5kHz
- Auto Ampl.Filter amplitudes around 47mV
Amplifier 2 - E0![[Image: edit.png]](http://192.168.1.222:8080/img/edit.png) - Channel A
- Trigger-44mV/82mV, reached 95291 times in last 15m, 54s
- Gains10 * 10 * 40 = Total Gain 4000 | Relative Gain 6349 (99%)
- Noise35mVpp
- Lowpass Filter30.5kHz
- Auto Ampl.Filter amplitudes around -141, -47, 141mV
ADC
![[Image: new.png]](http://192.168.1.222:8080/img/new.png) ![[Image: edit.png]](http://192.168.1.222:8080/img/edit.png) - Sampling per InputResolution: 12bits, Period: 666ns = 500.0kSPS, Time: 2000ns
- ADC1
- Input1Amp-Channel 3 , Offset 27mV, no Trigger
- Input2Amp-Channel 4 , Offset 19mV, Trigger -63mV/63mV
- ADC2
- Input1Amp-Channel 2 , Offset 24mV, Trigger 0mV/0mV
- Input2Amp-Channel 3 , Offset 27mV, no Trigger
- ADC3
- Input1Amp-Channel 1 , Offset 27mV, Trigger -64mV/64mV
- Input2Amp-Channel 2 , Offset -169mV, no Trigger
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Questions. Mountains and Antennas |
Posted by: Mike6158 - 2017-05-05, 13:04 - Forum: Hardware, Software, Lightning Physics
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Antennas- My Blue seems to be working great but I was wondering if I should be using the E-field antenna with the H-Field antenna. At the moment all I use is the H-Field.
Mountains- I may be moving to Durango, CO in a few months (current system will remain here if I can get another Blue). Do mountains pose a problem for receiving signals?
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Web Page Real-Time Updates |
Posted by: jkrob - 2017-05-04, 17:01 - Forum: Website, Maps and Applications
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All,
New to the forum but long time user of the Lightningmaps.org website. I have noticed, where I work, the lightningmaps.org page will show dynamic, real-time updates of flashes but the en.blitzortung.org page does not. It only does a full page refresh every minute. Are there different internet data flow requirements (firewall access, PC/browser setup, etc.) between the two pages? What does it take to make the en.blitzortung.org show real-time flashes like it does at my home PC?
Thanks in advance,
Jeff
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